I am in awe of an individual willing to do all this research and be willing to put themselves out into the world of the internet to help other women! What kind of shoes are these? Now I can wear it comfortably without the extender, though it's still not my favorite. Allydina, I appreciate your raising the point about posture because I wondered about it as well.
Panache Clara Balconnet Price: Panache Elan Plunge Price: Contour, underwire cups support and shape with a deep plunge front and seamless sides Beautiful lace overlay that extends past the contour cups and continues along the shoulder straps Beige A-B-C Underwire Lined, Contour, seamless underwire cups feature medium graduated padding to support and lift the breasts Closer-set cups give the push-up and push-in for maximum cleavage Beige A-B-C Panache No Wire Sport Price: Parfait Aline Price: Parfait Casey Floral Print Price: Dominique Seamless Price: Underwire Contour, underwire cups are made of supple microfiber and provide shape and support Microfiber inside and outside the cups delivers all-day comfort D-DD Beige, Black.
Prima Donna Mystic Fields Price: Underwire Multi-part full coverage underwire Embroidery on upper cups and applique on straps Sturdy cups lift the breasts, centered by the side section to create a full round form G-H-I Rosewood EU Sizing. I have done my best to stand the exact same way in all of the photos, which of course was not easy with having to run back and forth to try different bras and take photos with my tripod.
I think that the only real difference I see is that my head is a at a different position in each photo, if you look at the arch of my back, etc, then it looks the same. It is also a commonly known fact that bras that can affect your posture, so perhaps that is what you are noticing. It is hard to truly show the difference the new bra makes in photos, but if I say that it looks much better in real life, and most importantly that I am more comfortable, then what does it matter?
My life would be a lot easier if I could wear 28 bras, and I have been tempted in the past to ignore the problem. But the blisters on my ribcage and pain in my shoulders were hard to ignore, and I knew I owed it to my readers to try to find something better. If you disagree with my way of sizing or find something else works better for you, then, by all means use what works for you. Many factors affect fit on bra's and other garments. I do not claim to have an answer for everyone Best of luck to you in finding your perfect fit.
En Bouton- well, both bras "fit" me, other than the bands both being too big. The Cleo has slightly wider underwires, though. I hope that answers your question! Thank you for the thoughtful review and comments. I am in awe of an individual willing to do all this research and be willing to put themselves out into the world of the internet to help other women!
I especially love how you refrain from judging other ladies harshly, even when their tone to you makes me wonder what they could possibly be thinking! You act like this lady would have a reason to try and deceive you! My personal experience is this The back of my bra always went way up my back and all my bra's struggled to support me. The fitting ladies would give up in despair at fitting me.
Bra shopping was a nightmare! It always involved settling for what sort of fit, never for getting something beautiful and truly comfortable. Since I have been wearing better bra's, I have learned a few things. My first properly fitted bra was a revelation! The back did not go up my back. My chest was comfortable and supported. Also, as a short waisted woman, I lost the breast as part of my weight look and had a much nicer silhouette.
Then I lost weight I have been in the under weight, over weight and obese classifications during my lifetime. I tend to gain and loose evenly when it happens, but my body is most stubborn about it's set points! I did not loose much around my ribcage People, if you have small frame, then your ribs are usually smaller.
I am petite in height, have very small shoulders and a small ribcage I think my ribs expanded a small amount after 2 pregnancies and I know I had a few inches of fat covering them. So, as I lost weight, my previous dream bra's suddenly started rubbing my rib cage and giving the blisters Brittany is talking about. It reminds me of shoes The exact right fit is ever so much more comfortable! I have had to go down below a 30" band in my bra's and it has fixed the problem.
If you saw me in person, I am no twig! I have lovely curves and rolls! However, I still wear a small band size.
I believe when I had more padding, it made whatever bra I had fit more comfortably. Now that my ribs are sticking out more, I need to be all that more careful of my fit. Thanks for the reviews! I've been thinking about ordering EM for some time, but their sizing is confusing. Hi; Thanks you for answer; I think, that our apperance in difference bra sizes depends on our posture, so standing stright is very important, when you will compare sth.
I can wear the same bra and looks totaly different, because of my posture Look at this photos: But it's not real diccerence, only seamless, a mistake. Alladyna, What does that matter? Everyone knows that posture makes us look different. However, a good bra, when you are a chesty lady helps you to improve your posture as it balances out the weight on your front! The blog author is talking about being more comfortable and well supported.
I think you are missing the point of the review Also, different bras in the same size shape breasts in different ways. Some make me look well rounded at the top, others flatter. This does not change if the bra is comfortable or not, it just changes how I look in the bra. OK, I have decided My next bra purchase will be from Ewa Michalak! I have been mulling over this and perusing her website for quite awhile. Thank you for the very thorough review, sizing information and detailed pictures.
Also, a few questions about special ordering: How long did it take for your order to arrive from Poland? I am in New York State. And was there any issue with ordering a larger cup size than is currently available in those styles, in addition to the smaller band size?
I think I will order in my regular band size of 34, but several styles that I really like are only made up to a G or GG cup, and I would need them in a HH. Do you think that is possible? How did you figure out that they special order 26 and 24 bands? There is also only one 28 on the site, does that need to be special ordered too? And how do you know which models are available to be special ordered in your band? You have to email the shop and as them if they could make the style you want in your size.
But remember that you can't return these bras. Comfort and support don't always show. Especially when a person stands still: So why the photos if they don't add anything? Leah- They mentioned the 26 and 24 to me themselves, when I wrote to them after trying 28 and told them it did not fit.
As for which models, all of them, unless they are end of collection or special edition, in which case they might not have the materials to make them special. You just have to ask. AL- I do believe that the photos show something, or else I would not have put them. However, they cannot possibly tell the whole story, the other part of which is comfort.
Brittany - I've been reading your blog for a while, and I really enjoy it. I was beginning to wonder about the Ewa bras - I'm glad the 26 works for you - you're standing tall and proud. I have a 26" ribcage, and you have helped me on my way to my "brapiphany.
Anna- whoops, sorry, I missed your comment before. They took about a month or so for Ewa's team to make, but then only about 10 days to ship- I know that's a long time total but I think it's worth it. As for cup size, their bras are available up to a bigger cup size for each smaller band size. So something might be available in 34G max, then 32GG max, then 30H Does that make sense? You would have to write them and ask if they could make the styles you want, but the answer might be no, because I think some styles aren't suited to the amount of support that cup size needs, so they won't make them.
But it definitely can't hurt to ask. I hope that helps! Nice to see that you are finally happy with your bras. I first came across you blog when you bought your first BiuBiu clothes the've got beautifull dresses at the moment - I'm going to buy Summer City myself soon: Though, however happy you are, I'm also a bit suspicious.
I know Effuniaks - they are really quite tight. I love tight bands myself, I'm definitely more on the tight side than Alladyna, but Out of curiosity - do you exhale the air before you measure your underbust? If not, this could explain some misunderstandings: And one final remark, to the ladies who want to defend Britanny from Alladyna - there is no need. Alladyna is a part of a bigger bra-fitting community www. Too big cups and too tight bands. I think more than one person could find Alladyna's advice useful.
She's got amazing experience with well-fitted bras. You have to measure as tightly as possible. My normal also tight! The latter is the one you type into the Ewa Calculator. I've been meaning to comment forever, Brittany.
I love the pictures you posted, and knowing that someone as particular as you recommends this brand gives me confidence to recommend it to others. Allydina, I appreciate your raising the point about posture because I wondered about it as well. Katia, Why the word suspicious? What would Brittany have to gain by not being honest? She is not selling anything Perhaps people are defending Brittany because the tone sounds a bit unpleasant in some of the posts, rather than supportive or questioning?
I think there are many important factors in measuring! I have never measured as tightly as possibly, nor do I add to my measurement. I try to have my bra's fit on the loosest setting when they are new. I also think the weight of the breasts, as well as the shape are important here. If the breasts are very heavy, they will slide under a band that is too loose and pinch on a band that is slightly too big. In this situation the right fit becomes very important.
I think this is what Brittany has experienced. Ladies with lighter breasts can probably have a bit more flexibility. No person should be talking about bands that are tight enough to cause pain!!! That is obviously too tight and defeats the purpose. Just because many women wear bands that are too loose certainly doesn't mean that bands which are uncomfortably small become a good idea!
That is just plain silly! Obviously, using some sense and finding the balance you need given that you are all individuals with different needs, shapes and sensitivities! This blog is about supporting women in this search. It is stated to use ideas as a starting point So, I would say I find it very helpful, but do wish some of the posters would adjust their tone.
This is a safe place to get ideas, opinions and help. Be supportive and kind towards other women including the lady who writes the blog! That is better for everyone. I think that the debate about posture is an interesting one, though I never meant for it to become as much of a focus as it seems to have. I would just like to emphasize, however: I would NEVER falsify images, consciously change my posture to make things look different, or intentionally lie to my readers in any way.
Personally, I think the images look similar and Allydina, it seems you based your perception of my posture on where my arm is in the photos. If you tried placing lines at the small of my back and then touching the shoulderblade, I think they would look almost the same.
So maybe that is a big part of what we are seeing here? Regardless, the photos are only one small part of what I wrote, and I would love more discussion on the rest of my review.
Brittany needs unusually tight bands, when compared to a very large group of Ewa Michalak's bras' users. That makes some people doubt that she really needs them that tight to feel supported. Katia wanted to ask how Brittany measures herself, because the answer might explain a lot.
I wouldn't pick on her choice of words. Mind that some people here are not native speakers of English and might not sense semantic nuances and undertones. I don't think that she had an intention of attacking anyone. And for the record, I don't question the fit of Brittany's bras. Al, I think the fit questions are good and clarifying. I lived in another culture as a child So, I think being careful with words is a good idea.
Glad to hear it is a language barrier issue and not some of the strange stuff one see's on the internet these days! Al- That is a good point about the wording of a non-native speaker. I think Alladyna might want to know that what she said came across in a way she did not mean, however. It also feels a bit like she is determined to prove that my bras don't fit! I think we should all do our best to keep this discussion supportive.
As for the measuring- I do not think that I am measuring quite as snug as the girls in Poland do. I measure snug, but not as tight as possible and not exhaling. I think this may be a big reason for the discrepancy in opinions here.
I can see a huge difference in how the 26 band fits you and I'm really glad that you have found relief from the blisters, ouch! I have found that Ewa Michalak bras are extremely well made and very supportive.
I think I'm hooked and won't buy from any other brand. However, the length when stretched of the ewa michalak is much less than those other bras. The ewa michalak bands feel tighter when I wear them, which is great for me because I am in between a 30 and a 32 so the ewa michalak 32 band is just right. Smaller bands stretch less than larger bands, so you would notice the difference in stretchiness of the ewa michalak bras more in a size 32 than you would in a 28, and larger band sizes will notice the less strechy material of an ewa michalak band even more, so I think that's why they might have a reputation of being tight.
I hope this explanation is making sense. I will check that out and compare my bra's! Brittany, it's great that you found right bras for yourself. But if I can share my experience, I also had similar problems. I have 66cm underbust and to feel the proper fit I needed 28 bands in Panache bras. However, they all looked like the one in your note here: And consequently, much of the length of the band is "taken" by the cups and the actual band is really short but it still can ride up at the back!
I hope what I wrote is understandable; This phenomenon we girls in Poland call "wrapping yourself around with the cups": I don't know if any girl from Poland linked it here, but there's a girl who has lingerie blog too and, although most of you are not Polish speakers, looking at the photos will be enough to understand the problem. And for clarity, it's not my intention here to question your fitting Brittany but I just wanted to share what we girls in Poland came to. You may want to compare the underwires in EM and other brands.
They are not only wider but also longer and often stab in the armpit. And if you measure the proportion cups vs. As this blog's aim is to share experience,I hope my post will be helpful to someone and I want to highlight that I wrote about myself and I'm not denying Brittany's need for bands smaller than Anonymous- Thanks for the link!
I do appreciate what you are trying to say. I at one point had 28's altered for me and it made them fit even worse, i think because the underwires were already making that triangle and then removing fabric from the bands just made that so much worse.
This is one of the things I like about EM bras, Ewa pays attention to details like that and I think that is why the fit is so good I have gotten some online British friends of various sizes to try them, too, and they all love them as well! As per the snugness, I will just mention that I did indeed try the EM 60 band, for several months even, and it was definitely too big. Thanks again for sharing your experience! Well, I'm defintely not a native speaker of English. But I hope I know what suspicious means.
At least, I know what it means in my own idiolect: Ewa is a great designer and her bras do wonders. I would rather suspect her of being wrong. Or, I'd rather should say that I am a bit doubtful: In Poland the good technique is as following: That's not a question of personal preferences — that is how the manufacturers such as Ewa Michalak or Comexim another good Polish brand expect you to measure yourself.
My tight measurement is 77cm and loose one cm. When I type these figures into Effuniak's bra size calculator , I am advised to buy a bra which has a band nominally 75cm long more or less, size 34 in the USA or UK. However, if I measured myself only loosely, the caltulator would make a mistake and I would buy a band 80 36 bra that wouldn't be definitely tight enough for me: If Britanny doesn't measure herself this way, it's no wonder she and the girls from Poland have different opinions on how to fit a proper band size in case of Effuniak bras: And, Britanny, if it comes to altering, I think you can risk it in case of Effuniaks.
The underwires are not flexible and they are rather narrow. I had two of my Effuniaks altered and they fit great: Yet, I'm only 34E, so defintely my case could be different: On the other hand, when I altered Panache Harmony, the result was awful. What size would I need? I'm not sure how this works quite yet. I haven't bought any bras that actually fit me before. If you wrote in the calculator right measurements then the result given by the calculator should be fine.
The calculator gives accurate results in most cases if one takes measurements in the right way. Try on all the bras, keep the one that fits the best, and return all the others. I know that's a lot of bras to order at once, but if you don't have an excellent lingerie store near you where you can try on a lot of bras in your size, it's the best alternative. If none of the bras that you ordered fit, you may need a bigger or smaller size than the size range you ordered, or more likely, you picked a bra that was incompatible with the shape of your breasts.
For me personally, the calculator on this site predicts I will be a 30G. The calculator on EM predicts I will be a 32F. So for me the EM calculator was perfectly accurate, but your size could vary from what the calculator predicts depending on the shape of your breasts. It's all very confusing and the best way to find your true size is to try on a lot of bras. I do not know of anyone in the U. Typical is to measure loosely, then add 4 inches.
I got a good fit by measuring, not tightly, but snugly and not adding inches. I have never heard of exhaling and doing it so tightly. I am sure that would alter the fit quite a bit. The way I do it, the band I am trying to order should fit nicely on the loosest hook. I have only ordered one bra which had really vastly different sizing and may have been a mistake and as the cups fit a bra extender worked perfectly.
There seems to be a lot of variation in the way people measure! Hi Emily, A store would be great! I am short petite, people like to call it! Otherwise the underwire is too big for my frame. So, that would make all the difference in the world to me in terms of comfort. Do you have a store near you? I am SO willing to drive for a good store with a variety of sizes!
It makes such a difference in my comfort, how my figure looks, my posture The measurement method described by me works specifically for Ewa Michalak's bras. EM design her bras with this mmeasurement method in mind and the sizes differ from those in other brands. Hi Brit i saw that you talked a lot of the Band size not so much about the Cup size. When you picked out the bra did you use UK sizing? Hi Angela- Yes, the cups are exactly the same as UK sizing.
Ewa's cups also tend to be a bit narrower better proportioned for narrow backs and shorter good for petite or high-breasted women compared to most. Sorry for the confusion, I hope that helped! Oh, and Zoe- I meant to say that I loved your explanation of the stretchiness, that made a lot of sense! The 2 bras I compared above did seem to stretch about the same, but sadly I couldn't figure out how to post a photo- I would have needed several extra hands!
Does that sounds right? That's why women with large underbust measurements don't always need large band sizes, because bigger bands strech more. Venusian glow explains this phenomenon pretty well here: Brittany - I definitely need to try this brand! Your pictures aren't slouched or distorted in any way and the rediculous 'diagram' is clearly utter tripe - the 'lines' used to show your 'slouch' in some pics arent even touching - what a sad loser with too much time on their hands.
Your post is fabulous x. Anonymous - you say: In European countries, the band 65, 70, 75 etc seems to supposedly be what you roughly measure tightly in centimetres. They can't both be a literal translation of what you measure, but from experience, I know the UK way is correct. However, a 30 inched ribcage should never wear a 34 inch bra - this adds an extra 4 inches which would mean it is simply not tight enough.
From the sounds of it, the Polish women on here would think this to be correct But it's simply not. Having tried both a 70 and a 65, I can see that they're both too big for my frame, so in reality I need a 60 band - I normally wear a UK Agree with the Warner - you write amazing fascinating blogs and do not need to fabricate anything, you only want to help and share. Lines schmines, I have seen the bras on you and the smaller bands are definately the way forward, all the trolls need to stay away x.
Brittany is not wrong, neither are you, Bianka. Neither are girls from Poland. Some girls would need the same band 28 and 60 for example in EM as in other brands. However, as the calculator usually shows the right size in most of the cases , using it should be recommended for the starting point. I've got 28,7 inches under bust 73 cm measured tightly and 28 bands are too tight for me. I wear 30s and 32s and they fit perfectly.
My Cleo Lizzie bra with 32 band is 25,6 inch long and can be extended to 31,1 inches. My 28 inches is halfway between these two measurements. I can tell from my experience that such bras usually fit me. I don't say that this method is particularly accurate, though.
Tightness and comfort of a band depends on so many factors that it is really hard to predict. However, it CAN'T be stated that 28 inch ribcage should never wear a Bianka, I uses Ewa Michalak calculator could be flawed. But I wonder did you use an actual measuring tape or did you use an English to Metric Converter.
When I saw the they had a 36 K I was so happy since a few a styles they have at that size are aren't offered in British Brands I used a English to metric converter i typed in the numbers, then plugged those numbers into the bra calculator and got 40HH. That wouldn't fit me. So after I stooped crying I looked at my bra and saw that my European measurement was an 80 K.
Changed the band size measurement from 91 to 80 and it came back with 36 K. Maybe you might want to try them out. But when you buy for the first time get two or 3 different sizes in one style. The see how each fits you. That's what i'm thinking of doing. But is have to ask bout their return policy. Thanks for this post and for bringing awareness to band sizes under 30! I wear a 30 or a 28 band my underbust varies from Do you happen to know of any physical stores in the U.
I was thinking of writing about this sometime. As it is, I generally stick with ordering online. Christine- If you felt comfortable telling me your approximate location, I could maybe help you out more. But yes, there are a few decent stores- sadly not nearly as many there should be. They carry a full range of 28 band sizes and do a great job on fitting. I also know Nordstrom's sometimes carries 30 bands but I don't think they have 28's. I am a 28H in british sizing, usually only panache tends to stay tight enough.
I measure 26 around my ribcage, so plan to try a 55HH from Ewa Michalak Even if you don't have one near you if you go on the site http: I've never seen a 28 band at a Nordstrom, and it's usually hard to find 30's there: They were willing to alter the band down, but for the price, I'd just as soon buy a 28 band bra online!
This post has been extremely helpful and encouraging to me. After yet another poor Bravissimo experience last Saturday I was very depressed and frustrated. But thanks to fullerfigurefullerbust and this blog I have been given new hope. My issue is a small back 77 tight, 80 loose compared to an extremely large overbust I am in my final stages of research regarding Ewa Michalak and I hope to order my first bra from them soon.
AL - fair enough, it just really angers me when people try to make out she's lying of trying to give false information as after all I don't see what reason she would have to do so?
As a blogger myself I feel her frustration is all x. Hi, Brittany, Just reporting in to let you know that I ordered two EM bras because you were so pleased with them in this post. I, too, got the Toffik, and then also got the Lilia. The Lilia is not quite cut right for my breast shape, but the Toffik is perfect.
I'm really impressed by the quality of both and for so much less than my everyday Panaches, even including the Poland-US shipping, amazing! At 32HH, I never thought I'd find demi-cups that actually fit, and I'm over the moon to find something that's at once sexy, well-made, and affordable.
Definitely would not have taken the plunge heh--bra pun! Could you please post a picture of your 26HH any of 3 or all them together side to side with some 28H or 30GG bra? I'm on neverending quest of finding what can sit right on my 24" back and story of your successfull solving the similar problem gives me a new hope.
The calculator from CurvesAndCorsets Thanks Georgina for the link puts me in awkward 24HH - the size really hard to trade-to-a-friend in case of fitting mistake. Hello again, I commented earlier saying that I was ordering a couple of bras from Ewa Michalak; they arrived today.
They fit very well and I am extremely pleased with them. It's so nice to have properly fitting bras again, and the quality seems very good.
The bras fit very well; the band is snug on the loosest setting, like a new bra should be, and the cup fits smoothly if anything I could try one cup size up. Anyways, thanks again for the excellent review! Brittany, thank you so much for the fitting guidelines.
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